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The qist plan with no fixed dates
He cannot promise the tenth of every month, only “whenever I have something”. How to build a qist plan around uneven income and still see it finish.
He cannot promise the tenth of every month. Fine. Drop the date, but never drop the plan. Fix the total, fix the number of payments, and agree a rough rhythm instead: about every two weeks, never more than a month between. Take a bigger first payment. Then measure the gap, not the calendar.
A plan without dates still needs a shape
Some of your best customers cannot name a date and stay honest. A mason works when there is work. A vegetable seller has a good week and a dead week. A man on daily wages knows what he earns today and nothing about the fifteenth.
So he says the sentence you have heard a thousand times: whenever I have it in my hand, I will bring it.
Most shopkeepers do one of two things. They refuse him, and lose a sale to a customer who would have paid. Or they wave a hand and agree to nothing at all. The second is worse: a large amount is now outside your shop with no total anyone said out loud and no finish.
Here is the rule that saves the sale. No fixed date must never mean no plan. A date is one part of a plan, and the only part he cannot give you. Replace it with three things: a total, a count and a rhythm. How much altogether, in how many payments, roughly how often. The date is the only soft part, and it stays soft on purpose.
Half past seven on a Thursday evening. Rafiq, a mason, has been standing in front of a Rs 21,000 sewing machine for ten minutes, and his wife is on the phone asking whether he has bought it.
"I can give five now," he says. "After that, honestly, I cannot tell you dates. Some weeks there is work, some weeks nothing."
The shopkeeper does not argue about dates. He asks something else. "How much can you bring in a normal week? Not your best week. A normal one."
Rafiq thinks. "Five hundred. Sometimes a thousand."
That answer is the whole plan. The shopkeeper now knows the rhythm, and the rest is arithmetic on the back of a bill book.
Take a bigger first payment than usual
The first payment is the only part of this money whose timing you control. Make it carry more weight than it would on a dated plan.
On a plan with fixed dates, a quarter down is normal. Here, ask for more. A third is a fair starting point, closer to half on a shaky one. Say why: he gets freedom on the dates, you get more of the money on day one. Most customers accept that trade in a second.
A second reason: a man who has put Rs 5,000 of his own earnings into a machine behaves like a man who owns one. Somebody who put in nothing is still deciding whether he wanted it.
The third reason is arithmetic. Choose the first payment so the rest divides into round numbers. Rs 5,000 down on a Rs 24,000 plan leaves Rs 19,000: nine payments of Rs 2,000 and a last one of Rs 1,000. Round numbers never start an argument at a busy counter.
Small amounts often, not large amounts rarely
Now the size of a payment. Getting this backwards is what kills these plans.
A man with uneven earnings can find Rs 500 most weeks. He can almost never find Rs 4,000 on a named day. Same money, same period, and one shape works while the other collapses. Uneven income is not small income. It arrives in small pieces, so ask for it in small pieces.
Small and often keeps him walking into your shop. Somebody who comes every second week with Rs 2,000 is somebody you see and greet. Somebody who owes Rs 4,000 on a date he dreads starts taking a different street home. The customers you lose are rarely the ones who visit.
Ten in the morning at a cycle shop. Bashir sells vegetables from a cart and is paying off a delivery cycle.
"Bashir, how much today?"
"Thousand. The market was good on Sunday."
The shopkeeper writes it, reads the running figure back, and says the same line every time: "That is nine paid. Rs 5,000 left, five more payments. Come again in a couple of weeks."
Thirty seconds, no pressure, and Bashir leaves knowing where he stands.
There is a limit. Payments so small that the plan needs thirty of them die of boredom. Eight to fifteen payments suits most items.
The price is decided once, at the very start
Now the part your customer is quietly worried about, so say it plainly and early.
A qist plan may carry a one-time profit that you set when the plan is made. The installment price is higher than the cash price, and the whole bazaar knows it. Your money sits outside the shop for months instead of minutes, and you carry the risk between. Adding for that once, at the start, is normal qist practice and an honest one.
One-time means what it says. Look at the cash price, add your amount once, and that is the installment price, frozen from that moment. It does not grow because the plan runs long. It is not interest and never becomes interest: nothing is ever added afterwards, for any reason, including a payment arriving late.
That matters more here than on a dated plan, because his first fear is that an open ending means an open price. Kill it in one sentence:
"Rafiq, in cash this machine is Rs 21,000. On a plan it is Rs 24,000, and that Rs 24,000 is fixed right now. Take four months or take eight, the total never moves."
Suppose: a Rs 21,000 machine on an open plan
Only an example, never a claim about any real shop. The Rs 3,000 is added once at the start and never again, and nothing is ever added for a slow payment.
Tell him the cash price too. A customer who learns it later, from another shop, feels cheated even when he was not. And keep your one-time amount the same for everybody. The steps behind a fair qist plan are the same here; only the date is loosened.
What "late" means when nothing has a date
If there are no dates, how is anything late? That question stops most shopkeepers from trying this. The answer is simple.
Measure the gap, not the calendar. On a dated plan, late means a date has passed. Here, late means too much time has gone by since the last payment. That is why the rhythm is written down: about every two weeks, never more than a month between payments. Lateness still exists. It is measured from his last payment instead of from a square on a wall.
So watch one number: days since he last paid you anything. Under fourteen, the plan is healthy. Around twenty-one, watch it. Past thirty, the plan has gone quiet, and quiet plans are how a clean agreement rots into an ordinary old balance.
It also stops you worrying about a customer who is fine. A man who paid Rs 2,000 four days ago is not a defaulter, whatever a calendar says.
When the gap opens, send a short check-in, not a chase. The same words every time, so it reads as the plan working rather than suspicion landing:
"Rafiq, it has been about a month. Rs 11,000 left on the machine, six payments. Whenever you have something, bring it."
No question mark demanding an explanation, no reminder of what he promised. If a man has to invent a story before he can answer, he will not answer. What to do when a qist payment is missed applies here: talk early, talk small, never make the first message the angry one.
How the same plan actually lands, gap by gap
- Day 1First payment, machine goes homeRs 5,000Paid
- Day 12Payment 2, inside the windowRs 2,000Paid
- Day 29Payment 3, a slower stretch of workRs 2,000Paid
- Day 44Payment 4Rs 2,000Paid
- Day 78Payment 5, after a 34-day gap and one short check-inRs 2,000Gap opened
- Day 90 to Day 175Payments 6 to 10, roughly every two to three weeksRs 10,000Paid
- Day 196Payment 11 clears the total, plan closed out loudRs 1,000Due
When this shape is the wrong answer
This is a good tool with narrow edges. Refuse it, or change it, in three situations.
The item is big. The larger the amount, the more you need dates. A Rs 24,000 machine on an open plan is a risk you survive. A Rs 120,000 motorcycle is not, and no rhythm sentence makes it one. That choice is laid out in udhaar or qist on a big item.
The customer is new. You are not judging his character, you are admitting you have no history with him. A first-time buyer gets your dated plan. Once he finishes one, the open version is on the table.
His income is uneven and unknown to you. Two different things, and only together are they dangerous. A vegetable seller on your own street has uneven income you can see: his cart, his hours, his season. A man who does "outside work" somewhere you cannot picture is uneven and unknown, and that is where this breaks.
A guarantor changes the answer for some of them. Not for the big-ticket case, but often for the new face and the unknown work. Ask before the goods leave, never after, and let him hear the total and the rhythm from you directly. The rules are in when to ask for a guarantor.
An open plan that works, and one that does not
Do this
- Write the total, the count of payments and the window before the goods leave.
- Count the days since his last payment, not the day of the month.
- Send the same short check-in to everybody, in the same words.
- Say the plan is finished out loud, and show a record that reads zero.
Not this
- Hand over a big item on nothing but "I will bring it when I have it".
- Offer this shape to a new face, or on a Rs 120,000 item.
- Add anything later because he took longer. The total was frozen on day one.
- Let a quiet plan sit for three months before you say a word.
Should the item go home with him at all? Usually yes. A machine in your storeroom earns nobody anything, and a man using it is a man earning the money that pays you. Hold the goods back only when the first payment is thin, when the item resells easily for cash, or when the guarantor has not spoken to you yet.
Finish the plan out loud
Every plan needs an ending, and this one needs it written more carefully than most.
Put the finish in the agreement on day one. Not a date, a condition: eleven payments, or the whole Rs 24,000, whichever arrives first. Without that line the plan simply runs, and after a year it becomes an old balance nobody remembers agreeing to.
Then close it properly. When the last payment lands, say so in front of him. "Rafiq, that is the last one. The machine is yours, nothing pending." Give him a record that reads zero, and mark your own copy closed the same minute. A plan that ends in silence brings a customer back six months later asking whether something is still outstanding.
This is where a written record beats memory, because there are no dates to jog it. An installment khata in Wasoolo holds the total, the number of payments and every payment against it, so a plan with no dates still shows a real remaining balance and a real count of payments left. The one-time amount you added at the start is posted as an entry of its own, so the owed figure is the true figure.
It also shows when a plan last received money, the only number that matters here, and overdue is a status badge and nothing else: it marks the plan, it never charges anything, because nothing is ever added for a delay. Wasoolo is 100% free to download for a single shop; the features page shows what the installment side holds, and the download page has the app.
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Common questions
If there is no date, what stops the plan running for years?
The total and the count, both written on day one. Add a line saying the plan ends at eleven payments or at Rs 24,000, whichever comes first. A plan with no date and no ending is only a hope.
Is the extra amount on a qist plan the same as interest?
No. A one-time amount is a price, decided once before the plan starts, and it never moves however long he takes. Interest grows with time and grows more when payment is late. Nothing is ever added on top for a delay.
How do I know a customer has gone quiet with no due date?
Watch the days since his last payment. Under fourteen the plan is healthy, past thirty it has gone quiet. Send your short check-in at the edge of the rhythm you agreed, in the same words every time.
Should I ask for a bigger first payment than on a normal plan?
Yes. It is the only payment whose timing you control. A third of the price is a fair starting point, closer to half if you are unsure. Say why: he gets freedom on the dates, you get more on day one.
What if he pays Rs 500 instead of the Rs 2,000 you agreed?
Take it, write it, and read the new balance back to him. Money arriving is a healthy plan. It only becomes a problem when every payment shrinks, and then the honest fix is smaller payments and a larger count.
Can I turn an old open balance into one of these plans?
Yes, and it is one of the best uses of it. Agree the total in front of both of you, agree a count and a rhythm, and treat the first payment as the day the plan starts. An old amount with a count attached collects far better than one without.